gray_fox part 1
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### General Questions ###


investigator: Okay, recording in progress. Now that you've completed the questionnaire we can go to the next page where it says general questions regarding usage of the libraries. Are you on this page? 

gray_fox: Yes, I am. 


##### GQ1 #####


investigator: Okay, perfect. So, then we can continue with the first general question. Yeah. Which tasks do you usually use a digital library for?

Please tick all answers, which apply and complete your own tasks. If they have not been listed and please give short oral examples of the tasks that you're ticking. So, for example, you could say, okay, I'm ticking "person search" because I like to keep drag of myself. So, what are the tasks that you usually use a digital library for?

gray_fox: Okay, thanks. yeah. rather, not for "person search", but it's more for "paper search". In other words, search the latest papers for literature review and so on. And yeah, but I can say not for "venue search" because I'm not interested in the venues' history. And yeah. And going back to the paper search this happens actually very often, for example, when I have to complete a review or when I want to, yeah, I don't know to tackle a new task or something, and then it's very important to find the latest work, the newest work, the best work. Yes, so, and of course, to get the BibTeX data and therefore I use very often DBLP and if it's not there, then I go to Google Scholar and yeah. "Get full text papers" of course. Yeah. And what else? "Study relations" and co-author relations. I wouldn't say that this never happens. Very, very seldom. Okay. So, next question? 

investigator: No are there any other tasks which have not been listed here that you would include under "Sonstiges"? 

gray_fox: Oh, let me think about this.

I think not. Well, let's say I do not remember anything that not listed now. 


##### GQ2 #####


investigator: Okay. That's perfectly fine. Thanks! Then let's continue with the next question. Which system or digital library do you usually use to solve these type of tasks? please tick all answers, which apply and name others, which apply, which have not been mentioned in the list here.

And please give short oral descriptions. Why you like or use the system? So, yeah, you've already mentioned some, but please, could you go over it again? 

gray_fox: Yeah. before I start, I have a question. 

investigator: Yeah? 

gray_fox: And that is should I only mention those that I use and why I use them, or should I also mention those that I don't use and why I do not use them?

investigator: You can also do that. If you want to give us this information. 

gray_fox: Okay. Yeah. If you need this information, then I give it.

investigator: We can use all information that you can give us. So, yes. 

gray_fox: Okay. Yes. the ACM digital library it's been a while actually did not use it for a very long time. But as due to the COVID 19, when yeah, the event started to be virtual, and they also started to upload the videos of the presentations. And that is why I sometimes use the ACM digital library. Otherwise, I wouldn't use it. And because it's not free, you would get the results free to the apps in Google Scholar. And yeah, Bibsonomy, no actually, I mean the most stuff that I need is covered by the DBLP and Google scholar. DBLP because of the high quality of their metadata.

But yeah, because not every paper which is related to computer science can be found in the DBLP, I very often switch to Google scholar and sometimes to Semantic Scholar. And sometimes to research gate and yeah. It's and I can see the point "usual search engine such as Google". Yes, sometimes I also, I use this, and the funny part is that I am very often linked to research gate so, okay. 

investigator: Okay. Anything else or anything? that is not listed here?

gray_fox: No, these are of the sources I use. Yeah. 

investigator: Okay, perfect. Thanks, then we can continue to the next section. You should now see task one.


### TASK 1 ###


Okay. Consider the following task, find two experts on a topic of your liking example. Example topics could be "domain specific query languages" or "hashing functions", but they should be from a general area of computer and information science. yeah, you do not really have to do this task. but we are now going to talk about how you would solve this task.


##### TASK 1.1 #####


So, the first question would be, what is your chosen topic? 

gray_fox: Among those two? 

investigator: No, no, no. Among any topic, so whatever you like!

gray_fox: Whatever I like, well, I would say “information retrieval”. Of course.


##### TASK 1.2 #####


investigator: Okay, perfect. And how familiar are you with this topic? 

gray_fox: I hope that I'm familiar with this topic. Yes. 


##### TASK 1.3 #####


investigator: Okay. perfect. And how would you define an expert? 

gray_fox: I would define an expert as someone who of course is an expert in this area. But that means that this person has published a lot of papers in high in venues that are yeah, rated with "A*" with "A" and so on. And an expert is not only an expert, as I said, not only in information retrieval, but also in other domains that are related to this topic. Yeah. 

investigator: Okay. Anything you want to add to that definition? Or should we continue with the next question? 

gray_fox: We can continue to the next question. 


##### TASK 1.4 #####


investigator: Okay. Perfect. So, then how would you solve the task of finding two experts on the topic of information retrieval?

gray_fox: Okay. I would yeah, go to Google scholar or something and write in information retrieval for example. And then the... 

You know, I must admit this never happened, so I have to, … yeah. Okay. But let's say, okay. I write it in for example, Google scholar, just "information retrieval", just assume I have never yeah, heard about this.

investigator: No, no, you can also assume that you already know about the topic because you're familiar with the topic, so, just describe it, however you would do it for your chosen topic. 

gray_fox: Okay. then I would check the best conference venues which are related to information retrieval. And…

investigator: How would you do that? Where would you check what is the best conference for information retrieval? 

gray_fox: Okay. There are some websites such as core or conference ranks or however they're called. On there, you can find the venues with the "A*" ratings. I think when I know which are the best conferences and in information retrieval, it is the SIGIR for example, and I would write SIGIR in DBLP and then there, somehow, I can choose the conference and there are the authors with the highest number of citations.

And I would assume that the persons let's say the people with the highest number of citations in, at high quality conferences are the experts. 

investigator: Okay. And how do you get the number citations in DBLP? Or would you use another system for getting the number of citations of people? 

gray_fox: For the number of citations, I guess I would find it in in Google scholar at the best also in semantics scholar, but I think in DBLP I can find the number of publications of a person at the high-quality conference, so...

investigator: Oh, okay. And how would you go from the step, from the names of the persons with a high number of publications from DBLP to transfer this information to I don't know what you said, Google scholar or something? How would you make the switch with which data? 

gray_fox: Of course with the name and then I probably would...

For example, let's say three papers or let's say one paper. And if it also appears in Google scholar, I'm very sure that this is the right person. Because yeah, sometimes you have yeah. Two people with the same name and I wouldn't like to yeah, to have a wrong result, but finding one paper is usually for me a good hint, that this is the person I was looking for. 

investigator: Okay, nice. And then how do you decide if this person is one of the two experts that you want to find? 

gray_fox: Well, in first, if the person published a lot in that high conference. Then it is a kind of person of an expert. And then if in Google scholar, you have some information such as the, the research interest.

If there is something like information retrieval you have, for example, I don't know. There's written professor at in information retrieval at MIT or something. And of course, the papers, I mean, by reading the paper titles. Let's say the first page I can when I read the paper titles, then I can imagine whether this person... well, works on that topic or not.

investigator: Okay. So, when do you check the first page of papers and how do you get the first page of papers? 

gray_fox: Sorry, can you…?

investigator: Of course you mentioned that you would read the first page of papers to determine if the paper is in scope for you. So, where would you get the first page of the papers and yeah. What do you do then? 

gray_fox: Okay. I think there was a slight misunderstanding. 

investigator: Sorry! 

gray_fox: No problem. What I meant was at Google scholar, you have the paper titles and snippets from the abstracts. 

investigator: Okay. 

gray_fox: There I have a rough idea whether the person is actually talking about information retrieval, but when I know this person is an expert and then I go to the papers I know I'm coming back to your question.

You can, when you are on Google solar, and for example, there's you can read there something like published at ACM and then, you know, it's not free and, but you can also, and see every version of the paper. For example, come to arXiv or on the PDF file on their webpage or something. And then I get this the paper and yeah. 

investigator: Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. So, this is all that you do to find the two experts, or do you want to add anything else to this question?

gray_fox: Well, at this well, at least at this start. It was very difficult to find experts and then it was necessary to get help from my supervisor. Of course. but this is the most yeah, sometimes I go through the co-authors of these experts. 

You read the papers. Sometimes, again, then you know, okay this person might be interesting and then I come to other experts. Yes. 

investigator: Okay. Perfect. So, that's it for this question?

gray_fox: Okay, great. 

investigator: Yep. Okay. Thanks then let's continue with the second task on the next page. 

gray_fox: Okay. 


### TASK 2 ###


investigator: Consider the following task, find relevant papers from a topic of your liking, which appeared after 2017 example, topics could be "paper recommendation" or "author disambiguation", but should be from a broader area of computer and information science.


##### TASK 2.1 #####
##### TASK 2.2 #####


You can choose the topic that you have chosen before. So, “information retrieval”, or you can choose a completely different topic. Whatever you like. So, what is your chosen topic? 

gray_fox: I'll keep it simple. Let's say “information retrieval”. 


##### TASK 2.3 #####


investigator: Okay, perfect. So, then we can skip question two and go directly to question number three, which asks you, how would you define relevancy?

gray_fox: This question is a kind of not very detailed enough. I'm sorry. Okay. 

investigator: Okay. Your task is to find relevant papers from “information retrieval”, which appeared after 2017. Okay. But what is relevancy for you? 

gray_fox: Relevancy is... well, information retrieval is a very, very broad topics, or actually everything that affects it is kind of relevant. But for me, relevant is either something I want to do in my research or something that is interesting sounds interesting to me, for example, when I tackle something new, when I want to do some new research on a topic that I don't know that is, then it would be relevant. I'm not sure whether the question is answered with that?

investigator: It is answered whenever you feel like you have defined it for yourself. If you want to continue with the next question, then it's answered. 

gray_fox: Okay. Then it is answered. 


##### TASK 2.4 #####


investigator: Yeah. Okay, perfect. Thanks. So, then on to the last question, how would you solve the task of finding relevant papers from information retrieval, which appeared after 2017?

gray_fox: Okay. As I'm familiar with the topic. I, for example, know who are the most influential researchers. And for example, I could write in their names in Google scholar. And then there, you can decide, you can say please just show me papers after 2017, is very easy to do and. Yeah, by the researchers that I know, but also by going through related work sections of papers.

This is nothing that I don't have a schedule for this, but some, when I read papers, this happens very often. And then I come through relevant papers, for example. And I keep them keep them in mind and if I don't have them in my mind, I know where to find them. That is through that relation consensus.

investigator: Okay. So, if you find the related work in full text of a paper how do you continue then? So, you have the reference and what do you do with the reference of the work that you would maybe want to look at? 

gray_fox: Yeah. I have the, I go, yes, of course. I use the reference. That means that I copy the title into, for example, Google scholar or something.

And then I want to yeah, usually want to find the PDF file of the paper. And yeah, read it, of course. yeah. And of course, I mean, the references contain the most important information, the title, the authors, the year, the venue, and it's usually I yeah, impossible not to find the correct one. 

investigator: Okay. Nice. So, this is all you want to say to this question? Or do you have anything to add? 

gray_fox: This is everything that I remember right now. 


### Thank you ###

investigator: Okay. That's perfectly fine. Okay. Then I will stop the recording.

